A few more facts for Jeff and bunch…

According to informed sources:

When the “Happy Penis Massage Cream” incident occurred March 28, 2011 it was the only allegation that Sieg made against Klosterkemper. There was no mention of any other incidents of sexual harassment or misconduct by Klosterkemper.

When the Mayor issued a written warning to Klosterkemper immediately after the incident occurred (as confirmed by Klosterkemper himself), Sieg had not mentioned any other incidents of sexual harassment or misconduct by Klosterkemper so it was treated as a first time single gender-based incident. And yes the Mayor did let Klosterkemper know if any additional incidents occurred he would be terminated.

When the Mayor conducted an additional investigation, Sieg did not mention any other incidents of sexual harassment or misconduct by Klosterkemper.

When the BOW reviewed the action of the Mayor, which ended in a tie vote (Simmons, Oldham yea, King, Cain nay) to suspend Klosterkemper for one day without pay, there was no mention of any other incidents of sexual harassment or misconduct by Klosterkemper.  If I were the Mayor I would not have voted to break the tie, I would have just left the vote tied in a “hung jury” so to speak. That might have satisfied some malcontents like Jean (but most likely not).

It was not until Sieg filed the EEOC complaint on or about August 22 that Sieg ALLEGED additional incidents of sexual harassment had occurred beginning in 2009.  It should be noted that Sieg never filed a formal or informal complaint for any of the other ALLEGED incidents with her boss June Ryle or with Mayor Herbert during the period 2009 – March 2011.

Once of the allegations on the EEOC complaint is that Klosterkemper showed her pictures of nude college women on his IPHONE.  Klosterkemper does not have and never has had a IPHONE. The devil is in the details.

Klosterkemper admitted to placing the “Happy Penis Massage Cream” on Sieg’s computer tower and was disciplined for it.   He has not admitted to ANY of the other allegations, and at this point they are just allegations and he, like everyone else, is innocent until proven guilty.

Ryle and Sieg were apparently not satisfied with the Mayor’s decision to give Klosterkemper a written warning.  Apparently they felt he minimally should of been suspended (and “not just for a week or two”).  But people who say the Mayor did not take action, and that he did not discipline Klosterkemper according to city policy simply don’t know what they are talking about.  People can debate forever if the discipline was severe enough, the same way people debate the death penalty versus life in prison, but the fact Klosterkemper was disciplined cannot be debated.

In my singular opinion Sieg is a victim of sexual harassment for the “Happy Penis Massage Cream” incident, and as I mentioned earlier I would have suspended Klosterkemper for a week without pay.  None of the other allegations in the EEOC complaint have been proven. To prove them, other than he said she said, there would need to be a witnesses or documented formal complaints on file.  So where are they? If the ALLEGATIONS are proven, then based on the additional information additional action could be taken against Klosterkemper.

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People like to talk about the old boys network…

Three and one half years ago the “network”, “club”, “bunch” or whatever you want to call it was Tebbe, Dornich, Bower, Ryle, and Manus (I guess I should also include Gardner, she was a Republican but went along with everything they said).

At that time Tebbe was called the vice-mayor, he was said to be Manus’s chief advisor and it was alleged that he creeped around in the dark behind the scenes and controlled everything. He even used the words “The People” and “Public Good” from time to time.

At that time some people also alleged the Manus administration had the local newspaper in their hip pocket, and some scandals got swept under the rug.

It might be our Topix Glenn Beck has a lot of insight that we realized.

So where was our Topix Glenn Beck four years ago when the Manus bunch was in charge? Oh, maybe our Topix Glenn Beck is a democrat (unlike the real one) and everything done with a democrat controlled administration is purrfeeect!

In my singular opinion these kind of accusations, innuendos and allegations occur every time there is an administration change, or whenever the majority party in government changes.  It’s been that way since the dawn of government.

The Topix Glenn Beck is just a Herbert Hater who hopes this last minute smear campaign helps Dornich and company (or Dornich’s bunch).

BTW “Topix” “Glenn” “Beck”, I do not feel a requirement to answer your questions.  I don’t see your name on my paycheck or marriage certificate. Put your real name out there the same way you like to put others and I might consider changing my mind but at this point I don’t feel compelled to respond to an anonymous poster.

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It wasn’t you Jean…

Posted by Jean J in Toxic Topic:

Your “paraphrasing” leaves a lot to be desired….however…did I basically say that I would work to see the street department head and the Mayor removed….

Only trouble is Jean, it was not you I was talking about.  Someone else said it at the Big Boy besides you.  Here is the first hint, it is someone that works for the City of Greensburg.

Jean, the Concerned Citizens of Greensburg have known your feelings about Herbert since 2008 when you stated you hated him in front of several people at the truck stop and tried to convince me to run against him.  Your motives are very clear.

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Learn to read…

Wow said this on Toxic Topix:

annousmly wrote:
http://www.jj0955.com/jjblog/2 011/10/confidentially-confiden tially-confidentially-everyone -is-talking-about-confidential ity%E2%80%A6/

“Wow! This shows what kind of guy Fayette is and what crummy company Herbert keeps. I cannot believe that anyone in their right mind would believe that Devon would want this leaked out. Classy move Fayette but everyone has come to expect this from you and Herbert.”

Hey, learn to read.  What I said was:

“Devan Sieg, city employee, complainant, could release the document to anyone at anytime and would not have to do so anonymously”

Note the words: “would not have to do so anonymously”

What does that mean?  It means I don’t believe it was Devan that released the EEOC complaint because if she wanted to release it she could just hand it to a reporter and would not need to send it anonymously to WISH TV.

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WISH TV, Fox 59, a few more facts…

Here are two links to media video concerning the sexual harassment compliant.  If you watch the video in high definition and pause it when the EEOC complaint is shown you can read significant portions of the complaint.

http://www.fox59.com/news/politics/wxin-greensburg-city-official-reports-sexual-harassment-in-the-city-offices-20111025,0,7975151.column

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/east_central/city-official-claims-sexual-harassment-in-greensburg

In the video it can be clearly seen the “Happy Penis Massage Cream” incident occurred on March 28, 2011.

According to Mark Klosterkemper, after the incident was reported to Mayor Herbert, the Mayor had a meeting with him and took disciplinary action by issuing him a written warning per city personnel policy which he signed. Mark admitted placing the “Happy Penis Massage Cream” on the computer tower; he admitted what he did was wrong, and he apologized to the complainant. At the time the incident was reported, none of the other allegations contained in the EEOC report were mentioned, so this incident was being treated as a first offense single incident.

In my singular opinion based on my management experience Klosterkemper should have served at least a week’s suspension without pay, but that was not the decision the Mayor made.  (For those anonymous posters on Topix and all the others in the community that think I make all the decisions for the Mayor, this should serve as notice that that allegations are not true, if I made the decisions this topic would not be an issue right now). That being said, most of the Fortune 500 and other companies I have worked for (including the one I work for now) have detailed personnel policies and handbooks that specify the appropriate disciplinary action for offenses and leave little or no room for management prerogative.  Without reading the city handbook, it is difficult to make a judgment if it adequately and thoroughly covers this type of incident.

In this instance, based on comments overheard and statements made to the media and others by June and Devan (not covered by confidentiality), they were not satisfied with the disciplinary action taken by the Mayor, and apparently felt the written warning was not severe enough and a suspension without pay was warranted.

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Frisch’s

Riddle me this, who was overheard recently at Frisch’s Big Boy stating (paraphrased slightly to protect the innocent): “I will do what I can to get the street commissioner fired and keep the mayor from being re-elected.”

Come on there were several witnesses, fess up…

Need a few hints?

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How would you know…

From the Toxic Topix forums posted by anonymous “Glenn Beck”:

http://www.jj0955.com/jjblog/2011/10/confiden… … “So who potentially has the most to gain by leaking the confidential EEOC complaint to the media right before the local elections?”

How would YOU know, Rick, as to what (and when) anything was leaked to the local media, unless that media is in bed with you?

Could it be that “WE, THE PEOPLE” have the most to gain, Rick? But again, creeps (as you) can’t operate in broad daylight, can they? Exposure of truth is your poison, isn’t it? And your kind will do anything to keep a “handle” on things, won’t they?

After all, if what people see and read can be controlled, it follows that what they think and say will also be controlled. Right, Rick? And hasn’t your (and Herbert’s) bunch been doing that for some time now? Haven’t you (as Herbert’s chief advisor) had Greensburg Daily News publisher Laura Welborn in your hip pocket as it pertains to issues involving “THE PEOPLE”?

Isn’t it a good indicator that something is institutionally broke when media outside the city has to be relied upon to break local news?”

How would I know that something was leaked to the local media?  It is simple, the EEOC would not release the complaint so someone with a copy had to send it to WISH TV.

You are implying the Greensburg Daily News received a copy of the EEOC complaint so riddle me this, how do YOU know if the Greensburg Daily News was sent a copy of the EEOC complaint?

I, nor any of the Concerned Citizens of Greensburg, have Laura Welborn or anyone else in our hip pockets, more ridiculous nonsense.

I am not Herbert’s chief adviser, you are wrong again. That might be his wife.

Hey, anonymous “Glenn Beck”, why not identify yourself since you feel entitled to attempt to identify others?  Grow a pair…

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Confidentially, Confidentially, Confidentially, everyone is talking about Confidentiality…

A confidential copy of Devan Sieg’s EECO complaint was anonymously leaked to the local media.

So who potentially has the most to gain by leaking the confidential EEOC complaint to the media right before the local elections? 

To start, who had legal access to the document? The EEOC would not release the document under Public Access Laws so a copy of the document did not come from them. The following individuals / organizations had access to the EEOC complaint:

The EEOC, bound by confidentiality

Devan Sieg, city employee, complainant, could release the document to anyone at anytime and would not have to do so anonymously

Kim Jeselskis, Sieg’s attorney, bound by confidentiality

June Ryle, elected, Clerk Treasurer, complainant’s boss, bound by confidentiality, Democrat, retiring at the end of the year

Gary Herbert, elected, Mayor, served the complaint, bound by confidentiality, Republican, running for re-election

Tim Coriden, city attorney, bound by confidentiality

The City Insurance Company representatives, bound by confidentiality

City Council:

Jamie Cain, elected to city council, appointed to BOW, bound by confidentiality, Republican, running for re-election

Darryl Poling, elected to city council, bound by confidentiality, Republican, running unopposed for re-election

Herb Hunter, elected to city council, bound by confidentiality, Republican, not running for re-election

Bill Wenning, elected to city council, bound by confidentiality, Republican, lost in mayoral primary to Gary Herbert in May 2011

Helen Gardner, elected to city council, bound by confidentiality, Republican, retiring

Board of Public Works and Safety:

Rodney King, appointed to BOW

Steve Simmons, appointed to BOW

Linda Oldham, appointed to BOW

Jamie Cain, city council representative appointed to BOW

So now that the EEOC complaint has been leaked to the media, does the general public have a right to a copy or is it still considered confidential although parts of it have been made public?

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No I am not posting on Topix…

Some uninformed people are again accusing me of posting on the Topix forum.

I have not posted any comments on the Topix forum.  Due to the nature of the Toxic Topix Forum, I do not post comments there. I have my own website and blog where I can post whenever I want.

Since people have started making unsubstantiated and false allegations and comments, there will be posts on the latest community issue over the next two weeks…be careful what you wish for…unlike the Mayor I am not bound to confidentiality and have a constitutional right to speak…

 

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